A Guide to Understanding Lineage

 So I see you've got a Nordanner with some lineage, and you're here to figure out how to write it all out! It's pretty easy, just follow the steps below and you'll have it figured out in no time!
This page is an extension of the Registration page. You should head there if you are looking for information on how to register your horse!
If you've been in the HARPG for some time, you'll be pretty familiar with the grid system. If you're new, no worries! This is what Nordanner's Lineage system looks like:

------------------------------------------ SSS: unknown
----------------- SS: unknown
------------------------------------------ SSD: unknown
Sire: unknown
------------------------------------------ SDS: unknown
----------------- SD: unknown
------------------------------------------ SDD: unknown
------------------------------------------ DSS: unknown
----------------- DS: unknown
------------------------------------------ DSD: unknown
Dam: unknown
------------------------------------------ DDS: unknown
----------------- DD: unknown
------------------------------------------ DDD: unknown

Additional Starter List:
[list of all non-listed starters that do not appear in basic grid]
Transitioning Old Horses
Old horses (defined as horses that already have registration images accepted into this group before 6/10/17) that are switching to this new format or have changed owners will most likely need to update their lineage to the current format!
Okay...sooo....How do I get started?
  • If your horse is one that has been registered before, you will need the old reference so you have the horse's lineage and can save yourself some time!
    • If your horse is a foal that has not been registered yet, or has had the old reference deleted, there are a couple of things you can do -- see the pro-tip below for more details!
  • START with your horse's sire and dam and the lineage grid above -- Put the sire and dam into the lineage grid in the "ID Name" format, and link their references if they are still living. 
  • NEXT pick either the sire or dam's lineage to work on. You will need to fill out any remaining ancestors from them! Remember to use the "ID Name" format! Keep going until you have the entire lineage for that horse filled out!
    • What if a horse in the lineage is deceased? --> See below sections!
  • NEXT If you picked the sire's lineage to fill out first, go back and fill out the dam's lineage. If you filled out the dam's lineage first, go back and fill out the sire's lineage!
  • IF YOU REACH THE END OF THE GRID. You will move on to the Additional Starters List. 

Okay, I have the names of my horse's ancestors and the starters - what do I do with them??
  • Every living horse in the lineage grid and the starter list must be linked and be current with references.
  • Every deceased horse in the lineage grid and the starter list must be listed in plain text. 
  • To find current references, please go to the ID List. 
    • You can search specific IDs on the Welcome page by simply typing the horse's ID (with NO SPACES after) and then hitting enter. 
I have a deceased horse in my lineage. What do I do?
  • Simply type out the horse's ID and Name in plain text on the appropriate section of the lineage grid or starter list. Do NOT put a link to their deceased reference. You can put (Deceased) next to the horse's name, however we do not require it to register the horse. 
  • If you aren't sure whether or not a horse is deceased, check the ID List. Deceased horses will have a status after their ID which says deceased, and all of their information cells will be dark gray and struck-through. 
I already have a starter listed in the basic grid, do I still list it in the starter list? 
  • Nope! Not needed! You can leave it as-is in the grid, or simply write (S) or (Starter) next to the name and move on. The "Starter List" is for starters that appear in the extended lineage that extends beyond the basic grid. All starters listed in the basic grid do not have to be relisted.
Hey, I'm an older player (or a newer player) that has purchased an older horse with a very long lineage - what do I do??
  • Simply follow the instructions on this page! You will need to fill out the lineage grid with current links to all the horses, or plain text if those horses are now deceased. Then, you will need to sort out the starters from the rest of the horses in that horse's lineage and include them in the Additional Starters List. You should do this prior to submitting your horse's registration in order to save time for both yourself (in waiting for the registration to be accepted) and also time on the admin's end. 
My horse is so old that the sire and dam references are gone, and I can't find any lineage for my horse!!! What do I do? HELP!!
  • Okay, take a deep breath and don't panic. Your horse is not gone, we promise! Now, scroll down just a little bit further and find the "Pro-Tip: Finding Lost Lineages" section. Under that section, we've included a couple of different ways to recover lost lineages!
I can't find my horse's design! What do I do???
Pro-Tip: Finding Lost Lineages
  • If you have to track a horse's lineage from scratch, if the sire and/or dam have a reference linked on the ID list, you'll be able to find a copy of their lineage on that reference to make it easier to update it to your foal!
  • Sometimes an old reference of the sire, dam, or related foal will still exist somewhere on DeviantART -- try searching "ID Nordanner" --> Click on the deviations tab --> on the upper-right dropdown, select "Most Recent". This will bring up ANY deviations associated with that ID and the Nordanner group.
If you can't find one or both references for a parent:
  • First, pull up your horse's ID in the ID List.
  • Depending on the % of zoom you have your screen on, you may need to scroll over in order to find the "Sire ID" and "Dam ID" sections of the list. 
  • Your horse's sire and dam IDs should be listed there for you! You will then be able to search up your horse's Parent IDs in the masterlist to find their reference links, and repeat this process for any remaining horses until you have completely filled out the lineage grid.
  • If you look up your horse and the parent IDs are missing, head on over to the group Discord and ask for an admin's help in the help-and-questions channel, and an admin will get back to you when they are able!
What does the stuff in the grid mean?
  • S= Sire
  • D= Dam
  • So, for example, SS means Sire's Sire, and SD means Sire's Dam, so on and so forth.
What is the Additional Starter List? How do I use it?
  • Does your horse's lineage go beyond this basic starter grid? If so, then you will need to utilize the Additional Starters List!
  • What is a "starter?" -- A starter is a horse with NO LINEAGE - it is a horse directly imported through Nordanner. Their lineage grid will be blank like the above, and it will have an import image uploaded to NordannerDesign !
  • If your horse has lineage beyond this grid system, you only list the starters associated with all of its ancestors. We don't need every horse in a horse's ancestry, only the starters, as it shortens the list of horses required. Regardless of the 2nd, 3rd, etc generations of a horse, they will all go back to the same starters, so we only need the starters for any lineage beyond the grid. 
  •  Additional Starter List pro-tip! It helps out the registration admin if you list all of the additional starters in numeric order. Since we don't require non-starters in the Additional Starter List, you are able to rearrange them in numerical order!
  • Please do not list every starter your horse is related to in the Additional Starter List. ONLY list the starters of horses that go beyond the lineage grid!
Have further questions? Check out the FAQ page under the Registration section!
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